Monday, June 05, 2006

Episode 15: Lee, you're fired!

Some high/lowlights of tonight's finale of The Apprentice:
  • Trump opens the episode asking the live audience who likes Lee? Mixture of cheers and boos. Who likes Sean? The crowd goes wild. And that's how the rest of the episode plays out.
  • Lys Hopper's jaw drops when Lee tells her that Lenny will handle the celebrities.
  • Jennifer of SLS Audio describes the Q Line home theater speaker system (available at to Tarek. He later dons a Q-Line hat for a high profile appearance.
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  • Gold Rush meets with Christine DiCarlo of The Leary Firefighters Foundation. Lee and his team are not prepared with the level of details she expects. Lenny tries to crack jokes to remedy the situation.
  • Lenny assigns a size medium uniform to each hockey player.
  • Jason Priestly enters Chelsea Piers and no one from Gold Rush greets him or escorts him.
  • Lee Bienstock answers Mr. Trump's phone call, "How ya doin' pal?"
  • Donald informs Lee that he'll be there shortly, but no one from Gold Rush meets him at the door. Trump recalls that Rebecca Jarvis made the same mistake last season.
  • Best line of the night... Jamie Pressley to Lenny Veltman: "Your sh**'s not together, little apprentice boy!"
  • At the end of the event, Lys reflects on Lee's performance, "He did a good job. I have a big smile."
Back to the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles....
  • Don Jr., Ivanka, George and Carolyn each praise both candidates without expressing any preference. Politicians!
  • Lenny tells Trump, "Lee is like gold. Gold can only appreciate in value."
  • Donald reveals the two projects: hotel / condo developments in Hawaii and SoHo. Both Sean and Lee prefer the New York project.
  • Trump asks the fired candidates to stand up for their choice of the new apprentice. Dan Brody stands for Sean.
  • Trump receives the final tally of votes and is surprised that there's a clear favorite. However, he fails to reveal the results of the vote. He also neglects to announce the results of the fundraising events. How much money was raised? Which event was more successful? We'll never know.
  • "Lee, you're fired!"
  • In an unusual departure from past Apprentice finales, Donald fires a candidate. Usually he "hires" the winner without "firing" the runner-up.
  • Without any explanation. Without any criticism of Lee's performance. Without any praise for Sean. Trump leaves us hanging with many unanswered questions. We may never know why he chose to fire Lee. He didn't give a reason.
  • Lee's religious holiday observances were not mentioned tonight. Not in the season recap. Not in the boardroom. It's not an issue for Trump.
  • Sean drives away in his new Pontiac, "I'm the Apprentice, baby!"

Lee kept it exciting but came up short at the end. Lee has much to be proud of and his future is bright and promising. More thoughts to come. Stay tuned....


At 6/06/2006 12:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump tells Lee, right after Sean starts to go nuts, "I want to talk to you"

Then at the very end, when you see trump and lee talking - you can see trump very clearly tell Lee "Call me next week"

I'd say Lee is set on some level - even if it isn't the Apprentice crown.

At 6/06/2006 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a shame, as the post notes, that Trump didn't share his thoughts before announcing his decision. If based solely on the final task, it would make sense for Sean to win, though we don't know which task won financially. If based on overall performance, it's much less clear. As for the audience voting, are we to infer that Sean won that poll, based on Trump's hiring of Sean?

It seemed this finale spent much more time on the footage of the final task and much less time in the boardroom/live setting, more specifically less input from others about the two finalists and little questioning of and deliberations on the final two contestants by Trump. Am I wrong, or did others get the same impression?

Also, why was Lee shaking his head and frowning in reaction to Sean's stating his intentions to marry Tammy? It felt like an odd cut, and Lee was actually making a point of registering his reaction of disagreement to something else, but this was live.

At 6/06/2006 1:17 AM, Anonymous Hershel said...

Lee was arrogant. Thinking that being 22 is an advantage is stupid. You have to be 40 or 50 to study kaballah! Also, Lee choosed a team based on his friends, not based on who was best for the job. That shows political cornyism, hiring your friends. Trump doesn't need that kind of person in his organization. I also notice that Lee lacks a sense of adventure. A New Yorker that doesn't take a chace to explore life outside of New York (the job in Hawaii) shows insularity, the famous New York attitude the rest of America hates. That is, New Yorkers who think only their city rules and the rest of America and the world is fly-over country. Mr. Trump runs a global corporation, he needs a global man. And don't tell me there are no orthodox jews in Hawaii!

Although I think Sean is a bit cocky, he does have the experience closing million dollar deals. And he is a motivator, which is an excellent quality in business.

I'm sure Lee will do great in the future, but he still has lots to learn about the real world. And if Lee's smart, he'll take whatever criticism is aimed at him and learn from it.

At 6/06/2006 1:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont recall them announcing the 30 grand winner

At 6/06/2006 1:23 AM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...


Have to correct you, but Jenn Massey in the season two finale also heard the "you're fired" from Mr. Trump before Kelly Perdew was hired that season.

Anyway, while Mr. Trump made the right choice in taking Sean, that doesn't mean Lee is a loser by any means. If anything, unless you're Tana and really slip at the end, you should do very well for yourself, and I suspect Lee will do just fine and in fact turn out to be a big winner long-term as I think Rebecca Jarvis (now with CNBC) will turn out to be.

BTW, Sean inadvertantly in one of his confessionals said it was "14 weeks" and NOT 15, meaning they very likely did lose a task to bad weather last fall as I thought was the case.


At 6/06/2006 2:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Throughout the entire last task, Lee was close to clutless. He was worried about the result, and not the process, on which real business ability and etiquette, personal relations and maturity can be determined. That he didn't meet Mr. Trump at the car, that he put Lenny in charge of the meeting the celebrities, that he had no script for Jamie Pressley, all were unforgiveable.
He saw the show last week and should have realized he was way behind Sean and that Sean was a candidate without a weakness.
After Sean selected the Soho project, he should have grabbed the opportunity to go after the Hawaii project, with all the personal sacrifices that would have made for a year or two. It would have given him a reason to distinguish himself from Sean and maybe give Mr. Trump an out to hire both of them, which was not liekly after Lee selected the Soho project as well.

Lee had a very lucky break when all of the other candidates were nearly split when choosing between Sean and he. When Donald, Jr., Ivanka, George and especially Carolyn refused to pick Sean or Lee over the other, Lee should have played to tie, rather than to win. Anyone looking at the apprentice show site in the last few days could realize that Lee was being slaughtered in the final popular pole. He should have seen that himself. He should have appealed to Mr. Trump how close everyone around Mr. Trump said it was too close to call, how Sean and he really respected each other, and if they took separate projects there was room for Mr. Trump to benefit from hiring both of them. But he didn't. He played to win a contest that he couldn't. There was no reason not to hire Sean. He certainly was the safer choice, and obviously the most popular choice across America. The truth is, he was badly outperformed in the final task, from the selection of the team onward. He failed to realize that Lenny had any weakness. He failed to foloow up on Pepe's suggestion of Pontiac possibly giving a matching grant. He knew he had the disadvantage of people wanting a fairytale ending of Sean marrying Tammy. Sean was untouchable, and Lee failed to comprehend this. Maybe playing to tie would have led to the same result that Mr. Trump still would have hired only one candidate, but it would have more rational to think that had a chance than to think he could beat Sean head-on.

At 6/06/2006 7:57 AM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

My complete thoughts on this episode:

The finale wound up being a bit more interesting than expected, but especially once (as expected) Andrea returned with it turning out the blood was actually a sinus condition (not really a surprise since if it really were serious we would have heard something long before now), it was clearly obvious Sean would win. In spite of failing to have signage for Pontiac up on in the ballroom where the concert took place, everything else went along rather smoothly, and it was probably an easier win than it even looked.

Lee's task on the other hand had all kinds of problems, and this showed to be even more so in extended footage on Yahoo! There were a host of big mistakes made by Lee (too many to mention), and the audience seemed to clearly agree that Lee didn't do that good a job at all in the final task. This also to me anyway reinforces my opinion that if there had been interviews at the final three, Roxanne would have first been spared by Mr. Trump in her boardroom battle with Allie after the Embassy Suites task and then made it past Lee to square off with Sean in the final task. Saying that, Lee in my opinion is NO loser at all, as just making it deep into the show makes him a big winner no matter what happened at the end.

Roxanne may go down as the most screwed candidate in "Apprentice" history. When Sean was doing his confessional, he said this had been "14 weeks" and NOT 15. Why is that important? Because it likely means without having any clue whatsoever of that being the case at the time his confessional was filmed last November, Sean may have inadvertantly given away that one task that was supposed to take place during filming last fall had to be canceled due to severe weather. If that was the case, it most likely was the sixth task and if so replaced by the Arby's task which was filmed last October 13-14, and there was very heavy rain in the New York area that Thursday (10/13, which also was Yom Kippur) and more rain that Friday during a stretch where there was rain almost every day for two and a half weeks straight. Since knowing how bad the weather really was as I do, that does likely mean the Arby's task was originally supposed to be the last team task, if so originally scheduled to take place last November 6-7 (when the first two days of the final tasks actually took place) but moved up on short notice. That in turn would have caused a serious ripple effect that appears to have actually happened where to avoid a lengthy gap in filming, the final tasks were moved up from an originally planned date of Saturday, November 12 to Tuesday, November 8. If the interviews were supposed to be on Wednesday, November 9, that would have meant those would have had to have been moved up to Sunday, November 6, and given it would be very difficult for the executives who would have handled the interviews to re-schedule to a Sunday, that likely caused them to have to be scrapped, leading to the double "firing" after the Embassy Suites task and Roxanne being screwed (and for those who have seen this before, I apologize for bringing this up repeatedly, but I was in New York this past Saturday (June 3) for a gathering that included a number of radio professionals who live in the New York metro area and have had events canceled by weather that also are fans of the show, and when reminded of how bad the weather really was during filming last October agreed that it was very likely a task was lost due to weather, causing a series of ripple effects).

Especially after seeing the extended footage on Yahoo!, after seeing the task the bigger question seemed to be the Sean and Tammy situation. I thought Tammy did a great job of being discreet about as did Sean at first, at least until Mr. Trump basically forced Sean to answer on that (maybe so in Apprentice 6 we see a return of Sandy Ferriera from "A2" to judge a wedding planning task?). Whether Sean and Tammy really love each other I think we will find out soon enough, as it's really up to them to decide if they want us to know if they really are a couple or not.

It also was notable there was a very odd finish to the finale that apparently didn't reveal the winner of the $30,000 nor the poll, and also after NBC asked up to submit questions none were asked. As for why that happened, it's quite possible that was the case because NBC had to accomodate its Raleigh-Durham affiliate, who may have asked for the finale to end at 10:55 (Eastern Time) because either the affiliate there was simulcasting OLN's coverage Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Finals between the Edmonton Oilers and Carolina Hurricanes (I remember it being mentioned elsewhere NBC affiliates in the city (or cities) of the US teams playing in the finals would simulcast OLN's coverage of Games 1 & 2 for those who don't have cable or don't have OLN on their cable systems), was showing the finale immediately after the game and needed it shortened by a few minutes where possible because it would be airing late there as a result OR so that affiliate could begin their local news a few minutes early for expanded coverage of Game 1 of the Finals if they were not simulcasting the game. NBC would likely do that since they are televising Games 3-7 of the finals starting this Saturday night (June 10 and on a Monday-Wednesday-Saturday schedule afterwards) after OLN airs Game 2 on Wednesday after they aired Game 1 on Monday night. It would explain a lot as to why the finale ended as it did.


At 6/06/2006 8:26 AM, Anonymous lee beinstock (no not that lee) said...

they did announce the winner name, some lady from utah.

Lee should be kicking himself for picking lenny. He is a disaster. Even last night, he made a series of bad jokes, one about seans babies (did he mean babes?) and one about pepe (whos pepe?).
NO ONE LAUGHED. And that sealed it for me. Lee did not deserve to win for having a complete idiot on his team.
How he couldnt see lenny being an idiot?
I will tell you.
Its actually simple.
Lee is immature. He was having too much frat fun with lenny, that he didnt realize what a complete disaster he was. Lenny was fired in week 5 or 6, so Lee completely forgot what a complete moron lenny is.

At 6/06/2006 8:29 AM, Anonymous lee beinstock (no not that lee) said...

by the way, i was at the party last night in lawrence fire station.
EVERYONE thought Lenny was a complete unmitigated disaster for Lee.
He should of fired him.
I cant say enough how disgusted i was with Lenny. He literally ruined it for Lee. And i think he did so subconsiously.

At 6/06/2006 10:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wallyhorse, get a life. Everyone knows your cancelled task theory. If you want to add Sean commenting on 14 weeks fine. But you don't need to repeat it twice.

At 6/06/2006 11:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont believe those polls were really all in favor of sean, why didnt trump say how the votes were distributed also, lee, there was much organising for votes, advertisements and all, and i am suppose to believe that sean ended up with the most votes. i dont believe it, as if trump wanted sean, obviously he couldnt have announced that the polls were for lee, so he had to shape the polls in line with his decision, which i definitely think he did.

At 6/06/2006 11:31 AM, Blogger Soccer Dad said...

Wallyhorse is correct. He "fired" the runner up once before. I still think it stinks. The final should only have "you're hired." It loses class when he fires one of the final 2.
On the other hand I suspect that the reason Trump didn't mention the results was to protect Lee's feelings. I thought it was classy. Everyone live seemed to the think the two were about evenly matched. Even the fired candidates were split about 50/50.
Still Sean is a lot more charismatic than Lee. And taking this job is at least as much about show business as it is about business.

At 6/06/2006 11:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There were also "vote for sean" campaigns. You're naive if you think only Lee was campaigning for votes.

On the Yahoo poll, Sean was leading Lee by a huuuuuge margin, something like 75% to 25%.

And the live audience clearly favored Sean too.

At 6/06/2006 12:00 PM, Blogger Realblondie said...

About the live audience, remember they were in LA and not New York. In New York, I'm convinced there would have been more people rooting for Lee. This is also connected to the reason he didn't want to work on the Hawaii project. New York has a HUGE amount of Jews, so it seems clear to me that this would be the obvious choice. One or two years is a long time to be without that kind of community.

At 6/06/2006 12:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest error that Lee made was picking Lenny. I know that's rough to say, but Lenny was instrumental in Lee not picking other strong players. It may be frustrating, but it's true.

Also, they apparently deleted several scenes in which Sean wines and dines the executives and the Barenaked ladies. I'm not sure this was so much the case of Lee doing a bad job as it was of Sean just being the perfect pick for the Apprentice. It wouldn't surprise me to see that Lee ends up working for Trump, though. He's certainly talented.

And I still don't understand why they missed a week, Walt.

At 6/06/2006 1:11 PM, Anonymous bob said...

Maybe Sean won the final task, but if you look at the overall season performance, Lee was clearly the winner. Carolyn said as much when she said how creative Lee was. Sean basically coasted the whole time he was on Synergy and did nothing memorable. Then he joined Gold Rush and was clearly led by Lee the whole time. Lee consistently came up with creative ideas and was a brilliant team leader on the "must win" Ellis Island task.

I think it was interesting that Trump never gave a reason for his choice. That leads me to believe that it was very close in his own mind. He might have been swayed by the popular vote, which kind of turns this into American Idol. If that's the case, he made the wrong choice.

So what if Sean was somewhat better on the final task, if this is really a 15 (or 14) week job interview, Lee should have won based on the season-long performance.

At 6/06/2006 1:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hopefully there wont be another othodox jew on any upcoming season, that way i will have no reason to watch the stupid show.

At 6/06/2006 1:34 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

As far as "missing a week"/losing a task entirely to weather:

As noted, when I was in New York on Saturday I spoke with people who have been in Radio and have dealt with weather for live, outdoor remotes and the like that sometimes have to be canceled due to weather NOT EVEN CLOSE to as bad as we had last October.

Everyone at this gathering (other than myself and one other person out of 50) lives in the New York metro area and when mentioned how bad the weather really was last October they quickly remembered it as well and realized that it really was bad enough to cost them a task last year. Sean's also accidentally saying 14 weeks instead of 15 also may have tipped off what happened.

Regardless, I still say Roxanne can blame mother nature for her being "fired" following the Embassy Suites task, because had the weather been normal, there would have been one more task somewhere in this mix and she likely would have joined Sean and Lee for the interviews and beaten out Lee there to make the final two vs. Sean.


At 6/06/2006 2:35 PM, Blogger Michael Spilzinger said...

Wow! The previous anonymous really summed up my thoughts as well. After the show was over, I said "Baruch Shepitrani" and moved on with my life.

At 6/06/2006 4:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice that Brent stood up for both candidates?

At 6/06/2006 5:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe Lee was in the lead coming in to the show, but picking Lenny, as well as not greeting Trump was too much to overcome.

In terms of their ages, I think Lee handled it well, he couldve even said that to get a guy like Sean you can hire a headhunter, a guy like Lee who is still learning the world of business, is the type of guy you find on the Apprentice.

Sean is a guy who looks good and sounds good, but likely will turn out to be a very average guy in the Trump organization

At 6/06/2006 5:46 PM, Blogger Ari said...

From a Jewish perspective, Lee did the right thing by picking Lenny. Hopefully, Lenny will have a deeper respect for Judaism with his friendship. Lee showed him (and perhaps all Jews watching the show) is that keeping the Torah is worth risking the chance of a lifetime to make tons of money and prestige.

At 6/06/2006 5:47 PM, Anonymous four bagel a day diet said...

brent stood up because he wanted to show how much weight he lost.

At 6/06/2006 5:48 PM, Anonymous four bagels a day diet said...

as the other lee said, LENNY IS A TOTAL disaster.

At 6/06/2006 6:24 PM, Anonymous leah said...

four bagel a day diet said...
brent stood up because he wanted to show how much weight he lost.


At 6/06/2006 8:36 PM, Blogger The Town Crier said...

canonist has published his first interview with lee

At 6/07/2006 12:34 AM, Blogger krystynecheerful said...

Sean skated through this process??? Lee lead in the tasks??? Lee lead in the polls??? Oh come on!!! Lee came thisclose to being fired several times, but eeked out by the hair of his chinny chin chin. He just managed to out-talk his competitors in the board room. Does out-talking necessarily make a better leader...I think not...actually it could lose one some respect amongst ones peers/colleagues. Trump, Carolyn, George and everyone else (cast and most viewers) could see through his politician ways.

And he didn't really lead...he was just the head yes man. More often than not, his teammates came up with the creative ideas and he just said yes. I seem to recall that Tarek is the one who did most of the creative work on the Ellis Island brochure. I'll give Lee props for getting them out there early to sell, but he had to have a good product to sell and that credit went to his team. And when he wasn't the leader...plenty of times he didn't exactly 'pitch in' to help his team. I do think he kinda 'sabotaged' Charmaine on her task.

And one of the other times he led...on the tailgate...the 'creative' ideas he pitched and implemented screamed "I'm 22 and just out of college and I haven't yet seen enough of the world to come up with any better ideas!".

And don't get me started on the Embassy Suites task. Sorry, but that was Sean all the way! If Lee didn't have Sean on that task he'd have been screwed!

And yes, Lee showed an absolute lack of maturity in judgement by 'outsourcing' his team recruitment to Lenny and it so cost him. Loyal team members can be great, but not when they can't lend anything worth a damn to the task at hand to get it done and get it done right.

Oh, and by the way...on the finale while Carolyn did say Lee was basically the epitome of the phrase "think outside the box", it was Sean who she called the "true leader". That was her wonderfully diplomatic way of saying she thought Sean was the better pick. Much nicer than saying "Lee nice try, but not nice enough."

Sean was the clear winner...he even out debated Lee in the final board room after the last task and in front of the live audience. Whether Lee wants to acknowledge or not, experience DOES count!

At 6/07/2006 10:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought there were 15 weeks in the season? Maybe I lost count?

At 6/07/2006 12:33 PM, Anonymous we still love lee said...

des anyone else see sean as a total fraud? you heard it here first, he will have the shortest stint with the trump org than any of the previous apprentices (or apprenti? according to randall) also, it doesnt seem as if tammy is as enamored with him as he is with hjer, any bets on when they will break up?

At 6/07/2006 8:58 PM, Anonymous leah said...

whats the link to the interview?

At 6/07/2006 10:04 PM, Anonymous Orthodox Apprentice said...

Click here for Lee's interview on Canonist.

Our interview with Lee should be posted Thursday evening.

At 6/08/2006 7:54 AM, Anonymous Hershel said...

Sean is not a total fraud. He's enthusiastic, and despite stereotypes about the corporate world being full of boring serious people. Enthusiastic people can do very well.

He was also more creative than Lee, and a better hands on leader. His romance with the co-worker bores me, but many companies are starting to allow inter-office relationships. Southwest is one of them, and the idea of keeping life and work separate when so many people are practically living at work is ridiculous.

At 6/09/2006 10:43 PM, Blogger Mike Barer said...

It wasn't only Lee's people that killed it for him. It was his lack of control toward the people that he chose.
Can you imagine if Lee picked Charmaine, Bryce, Leslie and Dan?

At 6/12/2006 2:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee couldn't have picked Charmaine, Bryce, Leslie, and Dan. He can only pick three.

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