Tuesday, March 28, 2006

Orthodox Apprentice: Dan, you're fired!


Today we saw the two Orthodox Apprentice candidates turn against each other. Lee Bienstock's earlier proclamation that he's never talked about someone behind their back is out the window. Lee took every opportunity to talk smack about Dan Brody - behind his back.

The task was to produce a commercial for Norwegian Cruise Line's freestyle cruising. Dan was calling all the shots early, while Lee and Lenny were fooling around. Lenny came up with the idea that a castaway would come aboard the ship and get pampered by the crew. Lee loved the idea and Dan agreed to go along with it.

When you're shopping for a cruise, would you choose the cruise line that allows castaways to hop aboard the ship???

The Norwegian Cruise Line executives didn't like the castaway, so Gold Rush was sunk.

Tarek and Dan strategized before the boardroom. Tarek Saab expressed his desire to keep Dan in the game, but then told Daniel that he'd have no friends going into the boardroom. In the boardroom, Lee came out swinging at Dan. Brody chose Lee and Tarek to return to the boardroom. [Time for a sip from the "Lashon Hara, Lamed Hay. Go to the boardoom, the easy way!" mug.] Dan thought about taking back Lenny too, but quickly decided against it.

Back in the boardroom, Trump wanted to know why Lenny wasn't taken back in. Carolyn accused Dan of leaving Lenny out to avoid Lee and Lenny ganging up on him. Dan denied it and tried to explain to Trump that Lee contributed nothing to the task, but that whenever Carolyn or Bill was around, Lee would run over to chat with them. "He's a politician," Donald proclaimed, with a rather accurate assessment of Lee's performance. After pounding on Tarek for making mistakes, underperforming and not living up to the Mensa label, Trump turned to Dan and said, "Dan, you're fired!"

Dan Brody's fatal mistake: not bringing Lenny into the boardroom. That's what Trump said. We believe, however, that Dan couldn't have fared better with Lenny in the room. Lenny Veltman had escaped two earlier boardrooms and there's no reason to believe he wouldn't have made it out of this one.

Although he was fired, it's rather difficult to pinpoint what Dan did wrong on this task. He didn't appear to be the cause of any of the problems. He wasn't a disaster, a term Trump has used often regarding other candidates. He didn't do a terrible job. He wasn't a weak leader. And he didn't have any history of problems. As far as firings go, this wasn't an obvious choice.

Unfortunately for Dan, the producers of the show kept him in the background up until this episode so we never got to see much of him until now. He'll now join the group of forgotten reality contestants. He didn't do anything crazy or terrible that we'll remember him for. And he didn't make it far enough to be remembered for his achievements.

As for Lee, his long term prospects don't look good. He's not on the verge of being fired, but he doesn't look like a final-two candidate.

For those of you watching the Jewish calendar, here's the timeline for this episode:

Monday, October 10: Task starts on the Norwegian Jewel. Filming must end by 3 pm. Editing continues through the evening.

Tuesday, October 11: Commercial production is completed. Teams prepare their presentations.

Wednesday, October 12 (Erev Yom Kippur): Gold Rush and Synergy present their commercials to the NCL executives. Gold Rush spends the afternoon in the boardroom. They get out in time for Kol Nidrei.

If there's anything positive that came out of this for Dan, it's that he didn't need to explain Yom Kippur, Sukkot and Shemini Atzeret to Lenny and the rest of the team. Not to mention the lulav and etrog.

30 Comments:

At 3/28/2006 12:49 AM, Anonymous Scott said...

Funny you mention that the boardroom took place on erev yom kippur, because when Dan got into the elevator we see him check his watch.

 
At 3/28/2006 1:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya except it was pouring cats and dogs on erev yom kippur in new york city

 
At 3/28/2006 1:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was raining on the show too.

 
At 3/28/2006 8:29 AM, Blogger happywithhislot said...

If t was erev yom kippur, why is riding a taxi at night?

As far as lee saying loshon hara, i dont think so, he was correctly assessing dan not giving anyone a job. He also knew that Dan was ganging up on him with Tarek.

Tarek should of been fired, but dan didnt want to call him out on the no voice over thing.

 
At 3/28/2006 9:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It had been mentioned in interviews from the 1st season that they don't necessarily tape the taxi scenes on the night that the person is kicked off. There's no reason to think that Dan's taxi ride back over the GWB couldn't have been taped a few days after the actual firing.
That also could explain his relative calm demeanor in the taxi, having reflected on the loss for a few days.

 
At 3/28/2006 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think its a known thing that the taxi scene isnt the night of the firing. EVERYONE has a taxi scene...even the winners!

 
At 3/28/2006 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you really think anyone's taxi scene could be filmed just minutes after a firing? They're generally calm and collected and speak somewhat coherently in the taxi. Could everyone get it together so quickly after being fired? It's probably filmed a couple days later, giving the ex-candidates some time to gather their thoughts and prepare what they want they say.

Do we even know if the scene really takes place in a taxi? It could be a studio set.

 
At 3/28/2006 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you know midtown Manhattan, you know it's really a taxi and not a set.

The reason it's done at night is undoubtedly to avoid crowds.

 
At 3/28/2006 3:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you know midtown Manhattan, you know it's really a taxi and not a set."

If you know how television shows are produced, you know the scene could be shot in the middle of a desert!

 
At 3/28/2006 3:35 PM, Anonymous JustSomeGuy said...

It's not a set.
That would be a huge waste of money.

And it's not filmed right away... (although Dan saying he's "coming home" was a bit weird... since he has to stick around with the rest of the fired candidates some place for the duration of the taping - he couldn't go home for at least another month)

 
At 3/28/2006 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is on a real NYC street but its not an actual taxi. its all prearranged. notice its always the yahoo jobs taxi?

 
At 3/28/2006 3:56 PM, Anonymous just another joe said...

what do y'all think about lee's chances? i give him about 3-4 more weeks before DT says your intelligent and ambitious and ya got great potential but your too inexprienced. i wanna see lenny pull off a huge win as the team leader and then he'll be safe for a while, but his strategy might be to let others fail in that role before he takes a shot at it.

 
At 3/28/2006 3:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read somewhere that in canada the sign on the taxi shows a different ad. They change it with graphics to a canadian company. Kind of like the fake ads behind homeplate during a baseball game that you only see on tv.

 
At 3/28/2006 5:22 PM, Blogger Joe Schick said...

After reading some of the anonymous comments on this blog, and listening to the interview of Dan Brody on Nachum Segal's show today, it appears that Dan has been anonymously posting here.

In any event, Dan came across as a mentsch throughout, and a credit to observant Jews and Judaism.

 
At 3/28/2006 5:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe- For those of us who didn't hear Dan on the radio, what do you think he posted here?

 
At 3/28/2006 6:16 PM, Blogger Joe Schick said...

In particular, that he was chewing on ice in the restaurant last week. It appeared in the comments and he said it in the interview. Who else would know that?

Interestingly, in the radio interview, he was asked whether Lee is Orthodox and declined to answer. That doesn't sound like confidential info about the show, unless Dan knows whether Lee did or didn't work during succos.

The interview can be heard at http://wfmu.org/playlists/JM

 
At 3/28/2006 6:43 PM, Anonymous leah said...

just another joe said...
what do y'all think about lee's chances?
i dont either think he will make it to the final 2 even though i want him to. he really does have potential as a great buisness man. likewhen mr. trup said that lee is a polititian and hes not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing. i would love for lee to win but i just dont thnk it will happen

 
At 3/28/2006 7:14 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Actually:

I believe the boardroom where Dan was fired took place AFTER sundown and after Yom Kippur ended, or even possibly took place a day later on Thursday 10/13 (we'll find that out as we go along). I know they have the psychologist talk to them after they are "fired" from the show and after that they film the "cab ride to nowhere" before they head to "loserville", which I believe in this case was across the Hudson in New Jersey.

Should also note they stopped filming all the "walk of shames" ahead of time after the third season because it became clearly obvious they did during "Apprentice 2", filming them as the candidates left.

As for this task, Part 1 was Monday 10/10 and Part 2 was Tuesday 10/11, meaning what I thought happened on the previous task (Post Cereal) was in that it was sped up due to an impending nor'easter that Saturday night (10/8/'05).

 
At 3/28/2006 7:42 PM, Anonymous leah said...

in an interview with dan, dan said that they filmed the boardroom right before yom kippur. thats why when dan went into the elevator he looked at his watch. it was bacause he needed to know how much time he had left until kol nidrei. as for the cab ride, dan said that it was filmed a few days after the boardroom.

does anyone have an interview with lee?

 
At 3/28/2006 8:05 PM, Blogger Michael Spilzinger said...

This link will give you the audio clip of the interview with Dan Brody on the Nachum Segal show.

http://www.nachumsegal.com/readBlog.cfm?blog=38461

 
At 3/28/2006 8:13 PM, Blogger Michael Spilzinger said...

I'm sure that at this point, Lee is not at liberty to discuss the show as he is still a participant.

 
At 3/28/2006 8:20 PM, Anonymous leah said...

is http://www.nachumsegal.com/readBlog.cfm?blog=38461
the same as
http://wfmu.org/playlists/JM?

 
At 3/28/2006 8:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While Dan was at the viewing at YU he announced he was eating ice chips on the reward. Lee doesn't work on Succos, Theresa already mentioned in an interview he sat out two.

 
At 3/28/2006 8:47 PM, Blogger Michael Spilzinger said...

"is http://www.nachumsegal.com/readBlog.cfm?blog=38461
the same as
http://wfmu.org/playlists/JM? "

The first is a link to the interview only, while the second is for the entire 3 hour broadcast

 
At 3/28/2006 8:48 PM, Blogger Michael Spilzinger said...

"While Dan was at the viewing at YU he announced he was eating ice chips on the reward."

Nice comeback Dan...

:)

 
At 3/28/2006 9:13 PM, Anonymous Orthodox Apprentice said...

Wally-

As we posted last week, the cruise ship left NYC on Monday 10/10 at 3 PM. We have now learned that the presentation to the NCL executives started at 3 PM on Tuesday 10/11.

The boardroom took place Wednesday afternoon, Erev Yom Kippur. It ended just before Kol Nidre. We posted this info yesterday and Dan confirmed it on the radio today.

Radio interview: www.nachumradio.com/readBlog.cfm?blog=38461

 
At 3/28/2006 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it humorous you think I am Dan. I am in fact a female originally from California now in NYC.

 
At 3/30/2006 10:12 PM, Anonymous leah said...

I find it humorous you think I am Dan. I am in fact a female originally from California now in NYC.

anyone could have said that. dan could still be out there as there are many anonymouses

 
At 4/18/2006 6:19 PM, Anonymous lillie said...

why would Dan pretend to be a girl???
any way i was so sad when
Dan got fired. i was squeezing my sisters hand.

 
At 5/18/2006 1:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not Jewish, so unfortunately, I don't know what everyone's talking about with the timeline. However, I just wanted to say that I lost respect for Donald Trump during this episode and several others this season. He seems to have the thinking that if you come up with an idea, and it's used, then you're responsible if it fails. Dan didn't want to bring in Lenny, and I think that was the right call. You don't punish someone for an idea that you accepted. Dan seems to be among the more upstanding and basically good people in the cast. I would trust him with my business. Lee is a politician, and comes across as smart but shifty and untrustworthy.

 

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