Monday, May 15, 2006

Episode 12 - Sean, Lee, You're Hired!

If you missed tonight's episode, you didn't miss much at all. Here's a brief lee-cap:
  • Sean and Lee got along well and didn't clash at all on their task.
  • Tammy volunteered as Synergy's project manager, but couldn't gain the respect of Allie or Roxanne. Tammy Trenta was in it for herself and her teammates didn't give her any support. Their constant eye-rolling became an issue during the task, in their on-the-street interviews and in the boardroom.
  • The Wal-Mart judge preferred Gold Rush's Xbox 360 display because it was more focused on selling store merchandise. The Microsoft judge went along with that decision.
  • For their reward, Lee Bienstock and Sean Yazbeck flew to Hollywood to provide the voices for Lunch Table Larry and BBQ Barry in the Dreamworks animated film Over the Hedge. Bruce Willis, Garry Shandling and Steve Carell are the lead voices.
  • Jeffrey Katzenberg turned to Sean and Lee and said, "You're hired!"
  • Allie Jablon tried to keep quiet in the boardroom. Roxanne Wilson blamed the loss on Tammy. Trump agreed and fired the businesswoman from New Jersey.
  • Lee didn't do much to strengthen or weaken his position this week. Other than stay out of the boardroom, which is huge for him.

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Episode 13:
Monday, May 22, 9:00 ET/PT
Next week, it's the two guys against the pair of women. The task is to create a new line of uniforms for Embassy Suites hotel staff. One team uses its love of fashion to try to stitch together a win, while the other team models its designs on market research. The winners hit the town with Trump's favorite apprentices, while the losers struggle to survive the boardroom. Two candidates will be fired before the next (and final) task.


If you missed our preview for Episode 14, click here.

31 Comments:

At 5/16/2006 12:24 AM, Anonymous JustSomeRandomGuy said...

do we know for sure 2 people are fired?

It is possible that they do the interviews in the first 15 minutes of 5/29 episode (i seem to remember them doing that in 1 of the first 3 seasons....)

The final task takes up 2 full episodes (including the "live" finalie - which is really only the last 30 minutes of the 90 minute special - at least thats what they did in season 4)

I'm just saying its possible...

Although if 2 people are fired next week - there's no guarantee they're both on the losing team. I could see someone on the winning team (Allie more likely) doing something to piss off Trump, which results in him bringing in everyone to the boardroom.

Anything can happen... guess we'll hve to wait and see - becuase at this point no information online is useful anymore

 
At 5/16/2006 12:25 AM, Anonymous justsomerandomguy said...

i suggest this because the preview did say "anyone can be fired"

 
At 5/16/2006 12:29 AM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Actually:

As said in the last thread, I don't believe there are interviews this time, and if so possibly due to a task not being listed having to be cancelled after filming had already started forcing other tasks to be moved up (and if that happened almost certainly an outdoor task during the extremely rainy period of October 7-25 that could not have been re-scheduled for a later date, and as I remember hearing before, tasks in the past have been moved around in the schedule after filming started, most notably the bridal task in "Apprentice 2").

Walt

 
At 5/16/2006 12:35 AM, Anonymous Justsomerandomguy said...

You've got way too much speculation going on Wally.

Yes what you say is possible - but a lot is possible - and I'm sticking with whats plain and in front of us - what you've said give absoltuly no indication that there are no interviews - you're ignorning the fact that Trump doesn't normally plan on firing multiple people in an episode - so there are tasks that probably get dropped as fliming progresses (yes weather issues also falls under this catagroy - but I would assume they have contingency plans for bad weather, so things don't get majorly screwed up because of some rain, like cancelling the interviews).

The only solid reason one can present for there not being any interviews is that they were dropped in season 4

 
At 5/16/2006 4:33 AM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

My views on the episode:

This task was quite difficult, and in all honesty, Tammy didn't deserve to be "fired" this time, and her being so was a shocker, especially given that all spoiler info had suggested Allie or Roxanne would go. Allie's eyerolls in particular did her no favors in front of Bill, who was absolutely right to call her out on those, and she and Roxanne didn't appear to give Tammy 100% effort on the task. In turn, Tammy was right to call out Allie and Roxanne on that, but her fatal error was saying this task was about her and her vision. That, and a lack of price pointing and also pointing out where for instance where the furniture used in the task could be purchased probably is what doomed Tammy, though she got no help from Allie and Roxanne either.

It was no secret Gold Rush would win this task to anyone who checked the IMDB.com base for the upcoming motion picture, "Over The Hedge", since Sean and Lee have actual credits in that film. They did many things right, and Sean and Lee nailed everything the Wal-Mart and Microsoft/Xbox people wanted (even if their display was not perfect). Sean and Lee probably deserved to win this task, and the extra footage on Yahoo showed how much they won it by in spite of not having a completed display.

One other thing that was interesting in seeing the extra footage was Tammy going to Sean for comfort, which suggested that perhaps their "realtionship" may actually be something (Tammy didn't comment on this in her exit interview on Yahoo, but she may not have been able to given we could see her back for the final task, and especially if Sean is in the final two). Another was in the long version of Tammy's taxi confession where Tammy noted how she felt Lee at 22 was much more mature than Roxanne was at 26 for instance. That to me was a bit of a surprise, though of course, Tammy had been around both of them for an extended period.

Overall, not one of the better "firings" by Mr. Trump.

Walt

P.S.: If the interviews are dropped this time, it would be for completely different reasons from "A4", where they almost certainly were because of major concerns that Alla's stripper past would have come out in those with someone not authorized to be there leaking such to the media and spoiling the entire "A4" season before it ever aired (many media were there for the "A3" finale last May when the interviews would have taken place, and I suspect because of that is would have most likely been NBC who cancelled those interviews, something I said all over the place at that time).

 
At 5/16/2006 9:25 AM, Anonymous Wally World said...

Wallyhorse: Dont know where you get your info, but its the 2nd week in a row you said the spoilers were wrong. Dude, you should stop reading those spoilers, wherever they are. I never saw any spoilers that said allie or roxanne would be fired. A few weeks ago you said something about a spoiler that allie and sean would have a relationship. Never heard about that one either. Do you make these up in your mind and say its a spoiler? Is there a spoiler site we should know about? Becasue apparently the spoilers are spoiled. I stick with mitch, he seems to know whats goin on.

Your logic behind no interviews for season 4 is ridiculous, to put it mildly. Every step of the way during the filming of a season, people are watching. They all sign agreements not to talk about what they see. The interview process is the simplest to hide from the public. No one but the interviewer, interviewee and a cameraman needs to be in the room. By your logic, the final tasks would be done privately in a small closed room. Not in a baseball stadium or a comedy club or a concert hall. God forbid someone might see whos in the finals.

To say that this season's interviews were canceled because a task was canceled because someone might have goten wet is even more ridiculous.

Theres an obvious reason why there are no interviews. MONEY!!! No company is gonna sponsor an interview becuase an interview cant promote a product or a store. This show is all about the sponsors. Thats why theres no interview. In the earlier seasons with interviews, many, maybe most, tasks didnt have large corporate sponsors. Now, if theres no sponsor theres no episode. Even the rewards are all commercials now. I think that why we dont have the interview episode. Because no one wants to sponsor it. Not becuase someone lost their umbrella.

 
At 5/16/2006 9:57 AM, Anonymous Wally World said...

I just want to say that I do love Walts enthusiasm for the show and I look forward to reading each of his posts. Although I dont always agree with what he says, its nothing personal between him and me. He keeps it interesting!

Wallyhorse obviously has a deep love for this show. He just needs someone to play his devils advocate sometimes.

 
At 5/16/2006 10:31 AM, Anonymous Orthodox Apprentice said...

JustSomeRandomGuy said...
"do we know for sure 2 people are fired?"


Yes, we have confirmation that two people will be fired on the next episode.

We agree that one person could be fired from each team. It certainly would not surprise us if that happened.

Also, we have no reason to believe that any executive interviews were ever planned for this season.

 
At 5/16/2006 12:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The two girls are pretty useless. You see how they tanked Tammy like that, and that type of person is useless to Mr. Trump. In the next episode, the girls are going to use their love of fashion to stitch together a win, but will fail. The guys, led by Lee, will do the market research and get a win. It's going to be a huge win, and Trump will fire both of the ladies as a result. I think it will be interesting to see the two girls at each others' throats for once. They refused to consider attacking each other in this boardroom.

 
At 5/16/2006 5:18 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Wallyworld:

I would agree with your logic concerning the interviews, EXCEPT:

We DID have interviews on Martha's version last fall (at the final three where Jim was eliminated, leaving Bethenny and eventual winner Dawna to duke it out), and that version taped AFTER Trump's "A4" did. That right there is a huge clue that the interviews on "A4" were likely cancelled because of major concerns about Alla's stripper past being revealed with unauthorized parties overhearing it, leaking it to the media and spoiling the entire season (and a supermarket tabloid willing to risk having to pay $5-10 million if caught would not worry about paying that if it could spoil an entire season of a show before it ever airs as "A4" could have been under those circumstances, since to some of those publishers its probably worth it).

As far as execs getting wet, that has nothing to do with it. They probably lined up executives before filming ever started, but as already said, NO ONE could have realistically anticipated the level of rain we got between October 7-25 of last year at the time filming schedules were planned last summer. More than likely, they had to go to backup final tasks because the dates of those had to be moved up (otherwise, there may have been a gap in filming which might not have otherwise been allowed per contracts), that in turn because one task scheduled between October 7-25 had to be cancelled and could not be re-scheduled before taping ended. That would have prevented the execs from doing the interviews that likely were scheduled for November 9, but would have been on a Saturday or Sunday (November 5 or 6), and that would have been impossible for most execs due to schedules planned out well in advance for them (those interviews I think take like 3-5 hours total, plus the execs meet with Mr. Trump after that, so I think it would have been very difficult to re-schedule the interviews if they had to have been moved up due to an earlier task being cancelled.

Walt

P.S.: I know what Orthodox Apprentice said, but given there were interviews on Martha's version last fall (which again, taped AFTER "A4" did last spring), that's why I think they were cancelled on "A4" and "A5" for completely different reasons in each case.

 
At 5/16/2006 7:36 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Just found (thanks to Survivor S**** and a poster named "pakdawgie") another potentially HUGE spoiler on who is "fired" this week, as that poster prodvided a link to a couple's personal site on MSN, which is at:

http://spaces.msn.com/christinaboo/blog/cns%21E5D42ABF158E7741%21362.entry

OR

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35E21E1D

Apparently, this couple saw Allie and one of the two men as being "fired", meaning we now know that Roxanne is one of the final two. She also said in that blog "a white guy" was the other "firee", so we don't know who if Lee or Sean is the other "fired" by Mr. Trump.

Walt

P.S.: The Survivor S**** post is at:

http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm53.showMessage?topicID=3205.topic

OR

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C16E15E1D

 
At 5/16/2006 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So that means the orthodox apprentice is wrong. if its guys vs. girls and the winners get to hang out with old apprenti then how is there a guy and a girl in the last two?

 
At 5/16/2006 8:38 PM, Anonymous JustSomeRandomGuy said...

As it has been said (and the brief preview at the end of last nights episode tried to claim) - "anyone" can be fired - just because a team wins doesn't mean both members are safe.

Trump may very well bring all 4 in (and its very likely it will happen)

 
At 5/16/2006 9:13 PM, Anonymous Orthodox Apprentice said...

Walt-

You saw it here first!!! We told you about that sighting (with a link to the source) on April 6th.

Here's what we said:

christinaboo blogged about witnessing the filming of fired Apprentice candidates leaving Trump Tower on November 3, 2005. Based on her description of "a blond lady n a white guy," it appears to have been Pepi Diaz and Stacy Schneider.

There's always been speculation that each candidate is filmed walking out to the cab at the beginning of the season. When there's a multiple firing, however, the original footage can't be used so they need to stage the scene at a later date. This could explain why Pepi and Stacy would be filmed leaving Trump Tower in November. Or it could have been Allie or Leslie with Lenny, Tarek, Lee or Sean. We suspect it was Episode 2's double-firing.


Link to our original post: http://tinyurl.com/qo64a

Six weeks since we first posted that, we're now left with the possibilities that either our original suspicion was accurate, or it could have been Allie with either Lee or Sean.

The timeframe is very tight for the next boardroom to take place on November 3 and it would leave much more time than expected before the final task on November 8. It is possible though. Not likely, but possible.

To reiterate what we said earlier, there will be two firings and they might, or might not, be teammates.

By the way, did anyone else notice that Tammy entered the cab wearing a green coat, but wore a black coat during her cab speech?

 
At 5/16/2006 9:34 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

You were right:

I missed the link at the time that was posted. Obviously, no one would know six weeks later that same post would actually wind up revealing the final two.

The reason we're sure it's Allie and one of the remaining two men is because starting with season four, they ended the practice of filming all of the "walk of shames" at the beginning of the season after it became obvious during season two they did that (as they were wearing winter coats even though their "firings" came during warm weather) and it was commented on even by people at CNBC when interviewing the final candidates (and the fact that season was filmed in May and June of 2004, including some days that were very hot late in filming that season) and also because of not having to set up to do a re-shoot following multiple "firings."

As for Tammy, she was wearing a black suit jacket and a green winter coat that she obviously had taken off for the cab ride.

Walt

 
At 5/16/2006 9:43 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

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At 5/16/2006 9:45 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

I deleted the last post because of an error I discovered.

As for the timeframe on the next task:

It's very possible they had a very tight timeframe on the next task because it's also possible it had to be either moved up or pushed back because of tasks having to be moved around to compensate for a task possibly being cancelled due to all the bad weather in New York from October 7-25 OR they decided they would do the boardroom while the winning team was on its reward (that is, if the winning team, which we now know includes Roxanne is one man and one woman since not only this new spoiler, but an earlier one on TWoP noted a black woman being one of those having dinner on a late task as I recall), perhaps because of commitments Mr. Trump and/or others may have had on Friday 11/4.

 
At 5/16/2006 10:35 PM, Anonymous Orthodox Apprentice said...

There is still very good reason to believe that this could have been Pepi and Stacy. The walk from the building to the cab for any double-firing has to be staged at the end of the (filming) season.

The November 3 date is a bit tight (but possible) for the final boardroom. It's more reasonable as a date when multiple firings could have been filmed walking to the car.

On the other hand, there has been plenty of chatter in recent weeks about Roxanne & Lee in the finals.

Either scenario is possible.

 
At 5/16/2006 10:57 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Orthodox Apprentice:

You could be right, however, there is one other thing:

Every single "fired" candidate wore the exact same outfit they wore when they were "fired" over the last two season. While yes, they could have moved filming of the "walks of shame" to the end of taping, if that were they case, wouldn't they have done that after the final task was filmed under that set of circumstances, especially given they want to film it late at night when the fewest number of people are out?

Given others were wearing winter coats when they were "fired", which included Tammy on October 30 when it was still cold (though much warmer than the day before), the first week of November had the weather MUCH warmer than that as I remember (and was noted in that blog we both noted), I suspect they were in fact filming the "firings" as they were happening, which I believe they were also doing originally during the first season until photographers were hanging around Trump Tower after the first few such, which started the filming of everyone in winter coats as was seen in seasons two and three.

This also means if Allie is NOT "fired" this week, we know they were in fact filming all of them this week, but the blogger, who wrote that last November only saw one such and they walked around that about 50 times, so it would have been difficult to do all of them in one night.

 
At 5/16/2006 11:16 PM, Anonymous mo said...

The speeches in the taxi arent filmed the same day as the boardroom. Dan hinted at this in his interviews cuz he was fired just before yom kippur started. They make sure to wear the same outfit for the taxi speech and walking to the cab as they wore in the boardroom. All the walks and cab rides are prolly filmed at the end because people try to hang out and watch whos leaving the building. This girls blog is the reason they film it all at the end. If she saw it on a date like october 3 then we'd all know what would be happening. Since its at the end we dont really know.

 
At 5/17/2006 12:20 AM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Mo:

That may have been true in Dan's case because of it being Yom Kippur when he was "fired", but with other "fired" candidates I've been in chats with (in particular in The Fishbowl), it's usually been noted the cab ride takes place the same night as the "firing" (thought that could have since been changed because through season three, the filming of the "walks of shame" were all done before the season started and was changed after the third season because it was exposed during season two).

Like I said, it's possible that it wasn't Allie and one of the remaining men, however, there is a second spoiler that I remember was posted last fall at TWoP that had a man and a black woman having dinner with a former candidate that appeared to be who we now know is Roxanne, and the blogger specifically said it was a blonde.

While looking for that spoiler, I found another one dated November 9, 2005 on TWoP that noted someone being in Manhattan the previous WEEKEND filming what was a double "walk of shame" with two people with brown hair, a short woman and a tall man, which you can see at: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J37215F1D

I don't that Tarek is that tall and I don't remember Charmaine being that short, and since the other blogger specifically mentioned a blonde, that likely means Stacy and Pepi were doing their "walks of shame" that weekend night (as it's highly doubtful either would be asked back for the final task, and the TWoP posted specifically said it was a weekend).

They may very well have spread out the "walks of shame" over several nights, with perhaps those who went early and were not selected for the final tasks doing theirs AFTER those who were fired later and/or were selected for the final tasks.

That strongly suggests Allie was "fired" in the next task along with whoever she was partnered with.

Walt

 
At 5/17/2006 2:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the March 06 entry "Silly Couple" and you'll see that wasn't about the final two. So this tells us nothing. We still have no clue what will happen.

http://spaces.msn.com/christinaboo/blog/cns%21E5D42/

I remember back in Nov 2005, I wrote an entry about Terence n my 6th year anniversery dinner. We couldn't get in the cool restaurant and after our quick dinner, we decided to walk around and ran into shooting of the firing scence of the Apprentice. I said a blond girl and a tall guy got fried. Tonight they aired that epsode and when Trump said, "I will fire 2 people today." I was thinking, this must be the one I where I was standing across the street when they were filminf. To my surprise, I saw Terence and I standing across 5th Ave like dorks on the TV. It was only 2 sec long, but long enough to recognize myself and my husband hehe...

 
At 5/17/2006 2:58 PM, Anonymous Wally World said...

Another Wallyhorse spoiler is busted!!!

 
At 5/17/2006 8:20 PM, Blogger Wallyhorse said...

Thanks to who found the second blog:

That turned out to be Stacy and Pepi, with Stacy mistaken for a blonde (most people I know would not consider Stacy a blonde). The November 3 date didn't seem right for the last task, especially since I goofed on Tammy's "firing", as that was November 2. That, however, doesn't mean that Allie was NOT "fired" on the last task, especially given other spoilers, it just means for now that Roxanne is not necessairly one of the final two.

Actually, it was the guy on Survivor S**** who was busted because that person was the first to note the scenario (but it is my fault for running with it).

Walt

 
At 5/17/2006 11:14 PM, Anonymous Wally World said...

We forgive you... keep it coming!

Kudos to Orthodox Apprentice for not buying into the "spoiler".

 
At 5/18/2006 2:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OA- do you know if the highlights show is available/ariring anywhere (besides itunes?

 
At 5/18/2006 3:18 PM, Blogger Mike Barer said...

We have not seen much of George and Caroline this season. I don't recall when their has been this many subs for them.

 
At 5/18/2006 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

everyone should go to nbc.com and vote for lee. i'm normally not into this stuff but its still a tv show and you know they will want to make the public happy and therefore "hire" someone the viewers support.

 
At 5/18/2006 4:28 PM, Anonymous EveryMan said...

Yes, it would probably be a good idea to get the voting going now (www.nbc.com), because Lee seems to be lagging behind. TELL YOUR FRIENDS!

 
At 5/18/2006 4:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the website it looks like the current voting is just a poll and the real voting starts a week before the finale.

 
At 5/18/2006 5:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you really think Trump is gonna make a hiring decision based on public opinion? gimme a break! it certainly couldn't hurt someone to lead the poll, but it ain't gonna clinch it.

 

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